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You don’t want to come from, “It’s not possible,” because obviously it is. There are thousands of professional poker players in the world, but I can’t think of a handful of pros that are successful today that are not treating it like a serious job and working hard both playing and studying the game. The best way to make $1000 a month playing online poker is to play low stakes cash games, but play at least NL10 and preferably NL25. You also need to stick to a tight and aggressive strategy and make sure that you are always table selecting. If you do all of this then. Simply put, playing low-stake tournaments and cash games is not as lucrative as playing high-stake ones. If you’re good enough to beat opponents at high stakes, you can earn more money.

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I recently spoke at a conference in Toronto called Discovery that is put on by the responsible gaming council each year. I was asked some tough questions, but none that I wasn’t prepared for. There was one question that inspired me to write this blog and it came from a man who asked, “I deal with teenage problem gamblers and many of them say they want to be professional poker players. What would you say to those kids?”

I think the most important aspect of dealing with kids like this is to have an honest, coaching conversation with them. One that illustrates the complexities involved in making a living gambling. You don’t want to come from, “It’s not possible,” because obviously it is. There are thousands of professional poker players in the world, but I can’t think of a handful of pros that are successful today that are not treating it like a serious job and working hard both playing and studying the game.

So my intention in this coaching conversation is to really illustrate what it takes to make a living doing this. To have them fully understand what it really looks like, but doing so in such a way where it’s they themselves that are realizing it, rather than me preaching to them that they shouldn’t bother trying.

I start by explaining to them that a professional poker player is a small business owner, in the business of entertaining their customers (players who aren’t as skilled as they are). Most every successful business has a mission statement. Since this is a one man small business let’s call it a vision statement.

The vision statement should be one to two sentences on exactly what you want to see for the company. You are the company of course, so I would encourage you to write this vision statement now. It could look something like this:

My vision in poker is to use it as a vehicle to create abundance in my life. To passionately dedicate myself to learning, improving, and developing my skills, while also being financially responsible.

That’s just one example, you need to write one that speaks to you personally because you will be coming back to this statement often. It is the statement that will guide you during your career. The next step is to get a little more specific and quantify what abundance looks like for you. A concrete yearly income you are hoping to achieve. For this example, let’s use $100,000 as the goal.

So now we have the vision statement and the goal, next up is the HOW. The real plan. Drawing from our vision statement, we need to make sure that our plan is financially responsible and that we are continuing to develop our skills away from the table. To hit the $100,000 a year mark, it also requires that you are able to gauge how much money you can expect to make hourly in the game you are playing.

For example, let’s say your bankroll and skill level have you playing $2-$5 no limit hold’em at Bellagio. It’s important to know how much that game is worth to you. The best place to start would be to ask around and see what the best player in that game can expect to make, then deduct about 30% from that total. Yes, you may become the best player in that game, but until you have proven you can be, lets assume you are still in the learning phase and shouldn’t expect to jump out of the gate and be the best player at the table.

Based on what I’ve heard, the best players in that game may make as much as $30 an hour. Deduct 30% from that, if all goes well you can target $21 an hour. To make the math easier, let’s just make it $20 flat per hour. Since our goal is to make $100,000 a year, now we can have a rough idea of how many hours we actually need to spend at the table playing poker. That comes to 5000 hours a year playing. If we break down that further, that comes to 417 hours a month, which breaks down to over 100 hours a week! This is before we even add all of the study hours required to be in line with our vision statement. For ever 10 hours of play, you should add at least two hours of study time. Add on another 1000 hours a year of study, which boils down to 14 hours a week.

So now we have you playing 105 hours a week, and studying around 14 hours a week for a total close to 120 hours in a week. Do you know how many hours are in a week? 168. If you plan on sleeping 8 hours a night, that’s another 56 hours a week. With work/study at 120 and sleep at 56, that totals 176 hours a week.

Uh oh, Houston we have a problem! While your vision statement was quite clear as was your goal, your plan just isn’t feasible. It’s just not humanly possible unless you plan on skipping out on sleep entirely and having absolutely no social life whatsoever! No matter how good you play, your plan is destined to fail and it will.

So the most obvious thing to adjust is your expectations on your yearly income. Maybe lowering it from $100,000 down to $50,000 a year. To save time, let’s assume you can make a plan work where you make $50,000 a year working very hard. Will this allow you to create abundance in your life? Maybe, maybe not. That depends on your monthly nut, meaning how much your expenses cost you monthly. We are also going to assume you are a law abiding citizen who pays their income tax, so right off the bat let’s whack of 30% of that $50,000 a year. That leaves you with $35,000 to spend over a 12 month period, or about $2900 a month.

You want a car, you will have rent to pay, and I assume you also may want to eat food at some point. Maybe even have a telephone and wifi in your apartment. So let’s say you find an apartment for $1200 a month, spend another $300 on your car and gas, and then $1000 a month for food. That’s $2500 total, leaving you $400 a month to cover EVERYTHING else! Not to mention the fact that you need to maintain a bankroll big enough to deal with the inevitable swings. Heaven forbid you ever have to fix your car or get a speeding ticket!

If you aren’t playing with a bankroll big enough to play the games you want and live the lifestyle that you want, then what is your plan if you run out of funds? How will you stay in action? Borrowing from friends is one option, but how will you ever build a bankroll big enough to pay them back? At best, you have an extra $400 a month. If you borrowed $5000 it would take two years of everything going perfectly for you to pay them back. How many people do you know that will loan you $5000 on the hope of being paid back in two years if all goes well? So you will get staked you say? Ok, so now someone is putting up the money for you to play in the $2-$5 game and you get to keep 50% of your winnings. Now you will also have to slash your monthly earnings to $1450 a month while your living expenses are at $2500. You are still underwater. Well what if I get staked to play higher limits? OK, so you are going to find a backer to put you in $5-$10 games where you have no experience, there are tougher players, and your win rate isn’t guaranteed to be any higher than the $2-$5? Good luck with that.

This is all painting a dark picture by design. It is the reality that most of you who are hoping to become professional poker players face. One that can’t be ignored. Is it possible that you have the work ethic, the modest monthly nut, the skill set, the emotional stability, the drive, the will, the bankroll, etc. Sure, but don’t be fooled. There are maybe 2%-5% of people that can make this lifestyle work. Less than 5% of ball players in the minor leagues will ever make the big leagues. Even less high school football players putting on weight in the hopes of an NFL career will make it. There are many careers where the odds are heavily stacked against you. There are heroes, those special people who have “it” and find a way to make it, but most will fail. This holds true in poker as well.

My intention wasn’t to discourage you from chasing your dreams, whatever they may be. My intention was to illustrate to you that it will require HARD WORK. It will not be as easy as it looks on TV. Are you willing to put in all that hard work, all the while knowing that even if you do, it still may not be enough?

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Not many can play tournaments for a living. There are certain traits required you need to master to be able to. To play tournaments professionally, it takes the following:

  • Love for the game
  • Able to focus and be disciplined
  • Proven track record of your winnings
  • Have the required skills to beat the game
  • Treat tournaments as seriously as you would the real job
  • Enough time to play
  • Money for your bankroll to register for tournaments
  • Work on your game off the tables

To make a living playing poker tournaments, you first and foremost must have the love for the game. Playing tournaments can be very stressful and painful at times, so you have to have that fire burning to handle all the heat that that tournament poker will throw at you. That doesn’t mean that you will never get annoyed or angry playing poker. It takes a lot of mental focus and discipline for making tough decisions in-game and in preparation for the game.

To become a poker professional, you have to have some track record that proves that you are a profitable player. You can’t just wake up one day and decide to become a poker pro. You must have the necessary skills to beat the game. One big tournament win isn’t enough of evidence that you are a winning player. Nobody is born a poker “crusher,” but a lot of people have the potential to become one.

Poker tournaments are very competitive by nature. Tournament structure forces players into constant confrontations. In poker as in any game, you have to beat your opponents to win, and so you must have some level of competitiveness in you to excel in it.

As a poker professional, you have to realize that poker will take a lot of your time. You have to treat poker as seriously as you would any other profession. Even though poker can provide a comfortable life, you still have to work hard to achieve positive results.

Besides time you are going to need the money that can be put into your poker bankroll.

You can’t play poker professionally without sufficient bankroll and skills to manage it.

Can you make a living playing poker tournaments?

If you have all that it takes, you can make a pretty decent living playing poker tournaments. But everybody has a different definition of “decent living.” Making a 1k per month sounds promising if you live in eastern Europe or Asia and not so promising if you are from Sweden or Canada.

It can be effortless to grind micro and low stakes for a “minimum wage,” but to earn more lucrative money, you will have to go the extra mile and put in some hard work of the tables. Tournament poker gets tougher every year even in low stakes, so you have to keep your game sharp to stay in front of the competition.

In a table below, you can see how much solid tournament regulars make per month. With the help of a tournament variance calculator, we calculated expected profits for different stake levels. At lower stakes, the achievable ROI (return on investment) is much higher because the competition is weaker than in mid-stakes.

Higher ROI means less overall variance, which leads to lower bankroll requirements and lower probability of having a losing month. You have to realize that EV (Expected value) is just a theoretical number, and there are no guarantees that you will actually earn that amount. There is a lot of uncertainty in tournament poker, and that is why bankroll requirements are so high.

It is improbable that a 40% ROI player will go on a 300 BI (Buy-in) downswing, but psychologically it is good to know that you can go and still be safe.

As you see, you can make some serious money when you can beat the mid-stakes.

In Slovenia, the prime minister gets paid 3300€ after taxes per month, which is just about the same amount that solid mid-stakes regular makes. That is somewhat crazy if you think about it. In one job, you are pressing mouse buttons on the internet, while in other, you continuously have to make real-life decisions that concern the whole nation.

Types of tournaments

Poker rooms spread many variants and game types of poker tournaments. From more obscure games like PL (Pot-limit) 5 card Omaha to classic NL (No-limit) freezeouts. It is tough to play professionally any other variant than NL Holdem. There are just not enough tournaments to put in any serious volume. Maybe you can find enough Omaha tournaments to fill up the schedule, but you will have to look for mtts (multi-table tournaments) on many sites.

Types of poker tournaments:

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  • Progressive knockouts (PKO)
  • Regular tournaments
  • Turbo tournaments
  • Hyper-turbo tournaments
  • Deep stack tournaments
  • Satelites

The vast majority of players have NL Holdem tournaments as their main game. But even NL Holdem by itself has many types that demand a specialized skill set. Progressive knockouts (PKO) demand a different approach to regular tournaments. Turbos and hypers demand more preflop push or fold sharpness while deep stack tournaments require more post-flop fines.

Bankroll management

One of the most crucial skill to have in poker is proper bankroll management. You would think that the lack of skill is the main reason that most poker players go bankrupt, but actually, it is the improper bankroll management. Some players get bored playing their usual stakes and take shots at higher stakes even though it might be fiscally irresponsible.

You can be the most skilled poker player in the world, but if you don’t practice proper bankroll management, you will eventually go bust.

By proper bankroll management, I mean correctly investing assets in your poker bank to minimize the risk of ruin and maximize the profits. You should not play the 100$ tournament with 1000$ bankroll even if you feel that it is your lucky day.

In the short term, you are going to face more variance in mtts then in CG. It is not unusual to go on 100+ BI downswings or to break even over a thousand mtts. If you are not practicing proper bankroll management, you are putting yourself in constant danger of going bust.

If you want to play a tournament at a particular level, you should have at least 100 buy-ins in your poker bank. But that is just a bare minimum, and I would never recommend playing professionally with only 100 BI. If you are a poker enthusiast who recreationally plays poker, 100BI should be enough to get you started, but to play professionally, you should have somewhere between 250 and 1000 buy-ins.

The number of BI per stake level greatly depends on how much you are beating the games for (how good you are). Just having the money doesn’t automatically means that you are qualified to play higher stakes. Good regular with a solid track record can get away with a lot looser bankroll management than some mediocre player who barely beats the games.

You have to ask yourself if you are in a faze when you are building or maintaining a bankroll. It depends a lot on your general poker goals. Are you just fine grinding at a certain level, or are you planning to move up? Some poker professionals don’t separate life and poker roll. I would suggest that you do, especially if you are just starting because separation can provide a lot more clarity about your financial status.

Separate poker bankroll and your life roll.

Life roll

If you want to start playing poker professionally, you should have some money saved for living expenses. To be on the safer side, you should have the funds for at least six months of living. Playing poker, especially MTTs, can be very stressful, so you should try to eliminate all other stressors. Thinking about if you are going to make it or not till next month can take away a lot of unnecessary focus from poker. A little uncertainty can motivate you to push harder, but constant stress will wear you down eventually.

When you start making money playing poker, you should decide when to transfer funds from poker bankroll to life roll. There are many ways to do it. You should have some structure to it and not just randomly withdraw whenever you need money.

You can withdraw the desired sum once per month or more gradually during the month. I make a small withdraw every time I have a winning session, so I consequently don’t even notice that any money is missing from my bankroll. Find a way that you feel comfortable with and keep your life roll healthy.

Proper scheduling

If you are taking your job as a poker player seriously, you should create a playing schedule. By that, I don’t mean just the time frame but also the list of tournaments that you plan to play in that period.

When you are creating your monthly plan, you have to decide on a number of tournaments that you intend to play. If you want to reach a goal of, let’s say one thousand tournaments, you have to play 33 mtts per day. And since it would be best if you take a couple of days off, you have to play around 40 per playing day if you want to reach your monthly goal.

Now that we know how many mtts do we need to play per day we have to select a time period where we can play that amount most time efficiently. That time frame greatly depends on how many tables are capable of comfortably playing. You are going to reach your daily goal much faster if you play 12 instead of 6 tables.

You want to start your session at a time where you can register a lot of desired tournaments at once.

Ideally, if you are twelve tabling, you would want to start when you can open 12 mtts at the same time. You can warm up your session by playing fewer tables but mind that your hourly rate goes down when you play less than the optimal number of tables. The creation of the most time-efficient schedule takes a lot of trial and error.

You are quickly going to recognize which tournaments are not worth playing because you are continually going to end up one tabling them. It can be very annoying to one table for 3 hours a low stake tournament where you are making 0.50c per hour. The most straightforward advice would be to skip slow and deep structured mtts that start at the end of your registering time period.

To create an optimal playing schedule, you need to research the tournament offers on all the poker sites available to you. You shouldn’t just play on one poker site because you will miss out on a lot of potential value.

It can be valuable to have an account on smaller sites even just to play a couple of tourneys here and there. You can potentially have much higher ROI in some Sunday majors on Ipoker than on Pokerstars.

Some players register all the desired tournaments at the beginning of their sessions others wait till the start of the tournaments. I personally like to register them a couple of minutes after the start because you usually get less reg infested tables (table filed with professionals). I have an alarm clock application where I input all the tournaments, and when the mtt starts, I get a notification.

Volume

Playing a sufficient amount of tournaments is crucial for long term success as a pro player. Tournament professionals play somewhere between 400 and 1000 mtts per month. That number depends on multiple factors:

  • How many tables is a player able to play profitably
  • How high are the stakes (High stakes tournaments demand more focus)
  • What type of tournaments a player prefers (small field turbos on average take way less time than some slow and deep stacked Sunday mayor)

It is necessary to put in a sufficient volume of mtts. Otherwise, it can take way too much time for you to realize your EV. Tournament grind can be very grueling, and it is very common for players to go on losing or breakeven stretches that can last for months. This is especially true if you are mainly playing large-field tournaments. Odds of winning a major tournament are stacked against you from the get-go.

It is very important to have a diversified list of tournaments that consist of a lot of small field tournaments and some major ones that can bring you that big score that every player is dreaming of.

Multi-tabling

A necessary skill of tourney pro is the ability to multi-table. Everybody can open ten tables, but to play them effectively is a skill that is learned over time. You have to be so comfortable with your game that you can make quick decisions. You have to accept that you will play less than optimal when mass multi-tabling. You won’t be able to follow all the action on your tables, which can reveal some crucial information about your opponents.

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Your ROI per mtt will drop with the number of tables, but your hourly rate will increase with a higher volume.

The standard strategy to increase the number of tables is to add them slowly with time. You have to be comfortable with six tables before you start thinking about adding more.

Tournament selection

The selection of tournaments is very player dependent. Only you know which types of tournaments suits you the most and where you have the strongest track record. These days poker sites offer many variations of NL Holdem tournaments, from 6max Turbo PKOs to regular full ring deep stacks.

Your ROI will vary depending on the tournament type. In slow structured tournaments, achievable ROI is much higher than in turbos (Find out why in this article). You might crush regular 22$ tournaments with 50% ROI and barley brake even in 22$ 6max PKO because you don’t make proper adjustments.

Mind also that 6max tournaments take more focus then full ring, so if you intend to mass multi-table, try to avoid playing too many of them. 6max game in general plays more aggressively, and even the recreational players that they play them are more tricky. To outplay them, you will have to pick up some reads, which will be hard if you are 12 tabling.

The field size of the tournaments massively influences the variance that you are going to suffer. Small field tournaments offer a more steady income, while in large fields, it might take a huge volume for you to realize your EV. And since variance is big as it is in MTTs, you want to mitigate it somehow.

Including a lot of small field tournaments in your playing schedule is a great way to mitigate the variance.

For example, if you have 10k in your bankroll, you should play an average buy-in (ABI) of around 20$. ABI is the sum of all your buy-ins divided by the number of tournaments played.

ABI = (SUM of BI) / count of mtts

ABI = (55$ + 33$ + (3×11$) + 22$ + 5$) / 7 = 21.14 $

As you see you can still be very flexible when it comes to the size of a BI and still follow the guidelines of healthy bankroll management

How to find the softest tournaments

You should include the softest tournaments that you can find for your BI range. You can just play a tournament a couple of times and observe how tough the field is. But there is another option that gives you a more analytical assessment of tongues of the field.

With the application Sharkscope, we can search for the tournament in interest, and as a result, we will get a stat: the average ability of the tournament (Check the picture below). The lover that number the softer is the tournament. Each tournament has its ID that can be found in the tourney lobby. When you type that number in the Sharkscope search engine, you get a tournament report that provides av. ability.

If you don’t know if Sharkscope is right for you, then I have a detailed review and an expert guide for you on this link.

Tournaments

Analytic software

If you are taking your games seriously, you have to invest in the additional poker software. Analytical poker tools are getting cheaper and user-friendlier every year. Manual hand analysis that used to needed expert knowledge is now automated to a point where you can just paste HH into a tool and press calculate.

It goes without saying that HH (hand history) tracking program is a must and they are widespread among the poker pros. It tracks your results and provides HUD (Heads-up display) when you are playing. HUD provides excellent support, especially when you are mass multi-tabling. Without it, you are unable to follow all the action at the tables.

For gathering additional information about your opponents, you have to have access to a global database with tournament results. Checking your opponents’ results should give you some new reads. Sometimes it is enough to know whether somebody is a regular or recreational player when deciding on a hero call or fold. If you want to have a sharp push fold strategy (which is necessary), you always need to analyze HH with tools like ICMizer. These sorts of programs offer you preflop solutions to situations that continuously occur in tournament poker.

Constant improvement

As a poker professional, you have to work on your game continually. The competition is getting better/stronger every year, so you have to keep your game sharp to retain an edge on your opponents. The skills that were enough in 2015 may not be enough in 2020 and beyond, so it is necessary not to stay stagnant.

A lot of instructional poker content is easily digestible and available for free (like this article and more than 100 other blog posts on the PokerFortress website), especially for beating the low stakes. Poker content is available in all forms (videos, blogs, ebooks) and is present on all major streaming platforms (Twitch, Youtube).

Besides analyzing HH with previously mentioned tools, there are many ways to improve your game. You can join one of many training sites where you can access instructional videos made by high-level professionals (my favorite nowadays are RunItOnce and UpswingPoker).

These days you can purchase a lot of different online tournament masterclasses where you receive step by step instructions on how to improve your game. They can be a little bit more expensive, but you will receive more in-depth knowledge (the best at the time of this writing is one from RaiseYourEdge done by Bencb789, a highstakes crusher, who is considered one of the top online MTT players in the poker community).

A great way to improve is to join a study group and exchange opinions about hands with other poker players. One of the most effective ways to get better is to hire an experienced poker coach who will quickly find your leaks and provide guidance on how to fix them. But you need to be careful you find a coach that is actually worth your hard-earned money.

I have a full guide on how to find a perfect coach for you (for all price levels), so you are sure you get a good coach that will be able to transform you into a crusher.

Staking

You would be surprised how little tournament professionals play with their own money. Most of them are under some sort of staking deal. That means that they are playing for staking stable and have to share their profit with the owners.

There are two most common staking agreements that are popular:

  • contract-based staking for a certain period of time or tournaments played
  • stake for a single tournament

Usually, players have to give away somewhere between 40% and 60% of their winnings. When a player is losing, his loses go into makeup. If a player is -5k in makeup and wins an mtt for 10k, he will only split the money that is left after makeup has been settled.

Stables don’t take just winning players but also slightly losing or breakeven ones and try to transform them into winners.

Usually, the contract is signed between a player and owners of the stable for a determined time. The most common reason why players join stables is that they provide coaching and community where they can interact and exchange information with other peers.

Another way of staking is where players sell pieces of a specific tournament. Typically, that price comes with a markup. Mark up is a premium that is charged by the player. If somebody is selling pieces for a 100$ tournament with a 1.2 markup, you will have to pay 12$ for 10% of the stake.

This method is trendy in live tournament staking. Usually, online players seek investors to play higher than usual stakes in the live arena. If somebody is beating mid stakes online, he should with some adjustments, crush in some random 1k live tournament. But bankroll requirements for 1000$ live tournaments are much higher than for the 40$ average BI grind online, so it is fiscally responsible for selling some of the action.

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Live tournaments

Although most tournament professionals play online, some specialize in live MTTs. The live arena offers a more romanticized aspect of poker where you can look at your opponents and pick some live reads that help you sway your decisions.

Live tournaments offer great value to pros since most of the participants play poker only recreationally. There is a somewhat unwritten rule in poker that if you can comfortably beat low stakes online, you should have no problem winning at mid-stakes live.

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That of course, if you are capable of holding it together at a live table and not give away to many tells. It can feel more comfortable to pull a big bluff online where you just press a couple of buttons then live where every table is staring at you and judging your every move.

Achievable ROI in live tournaments is usually much higher than online. Good regulars have somewhere around 5% ROI in 1k online mtt while they can expect to have from 50 to100% ROI in live 1k. The fields are just that much softer. But you have to take into consideration that live mttstake on average way longer, and you can play only one at a time.

Can You Make A Living Playing Poker Tournaments

When calculating the profitability of live tournaments, you have to take into consideration traveling expenses. They can eat up a lot of your ROI if you are not planning your trips carefully. Traveling into another country and staying there for a weekend to play a tournament can cost more than you are expected to win.

Organize your travel around big live series (Where you can play a lot of mtts in a short period)or move close to a casino and be near the action all the time.

Conclusion

Like in any other business, if you have the necessary knowledge and skills, you have a good chance of succeeding as a poker player. You have to expect that it is going to be a very bumpy ride. There are minimal guarantees in the poker business. Luck plays a significant role in the short term success, so you have to expect that some days (or weeks, months) things just won’t go your way even if you do nothing wrong.

If you have a regular job and are thinking of becoming a tourney pro, you have to realize that there are no fixed salaries in poker. But there are some positives in having a job with no fixed salary. In a regular job, it’s almost impossible to earn more than your fixed monthly salary, but in poker, your earnings can be scaled up. That means that you have an opportunity of having a massive payday. In tournament poker, you have an opportunity to win life-changing money with one big tourney score.

Can You Make A Living Playing Poker Tournaments

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